Greek people bleeding and the crazy fairytales of the European media.

Today I heard a dutch housemate of mine saying that in Greece people retire at the age of 53 already.

Thanks to the media, mostly in Germany and Netherlands, North Europeans have an illusionary idea of the situation in Greece. They think that people retire at the age of 55 and get lots of extra salaries (16 I heard!!!) and have paradisal pensions. I also heard that there were 30 gym teachers on an island with 7 students. In that case of course they refuse to help financially.

However, the Greek situation is actually tragic:

- Greek people retire on average at the age of 61.5 and that's just above the EU average!

- The minimum Greek pension is 350 euros, the average Greek pension is 540 euros and 80% of the pensioners get a pension lower than 1000 euros.

- The salaries in Greece are 14 per year like the rest of Europe (were actually, since 1/5/2010 they are only 12).

- In each class in a Greek school there are 30 (sometimes more) pupils. And no teacher wants to go teach on an island. There are actually islands without schools and the pupils have to take the boat every day (imagine a winter storm in the sea) to go to school at another island.

My father will have 25% reduction in his pension and no raise for the next 3 (probably 5) years. The gasoline costed less than 1 euro per litre last year and now it costs more than 1.5 euros per litre. The VAT is now 23% (1 year ago it was 19%).

The Greek people are bleeding and the German and Dutch media have no respect for that! Instead they spread criminal lies and try to manipulate the Dutch and German population against the aid to Greece.

What aid?! When you borrow with 3% interest and you lend to Greece with 5% interest you make a profit of 2%!! That's not aid, that's an investment!

My fathers money go into your pockets and you still complain about it for God's sake!!!

PS: somebody also told me that probably the European countries that will help Greece will never ask those money back. I guess if that was the case, Greece wouldn't have the problem of the national debt in the first place, would it? I don't know any creditor that forgot to ask his money back...

PS2: For those who say that Greeks are lazy, I copy from wikipedia:

"Annual growth of Greek GDP has surpassed the respective levels of most of its EU partners.^[32]

^{The Greek labor force totals 4.9 million, and it is the second most industrious between OECD countries, after South Korea.[34] The Groningen Growth & Development Centre has published a poll revealing that between 1995 and 2005, Greece ranked third in the working hours per year ranking among European nations; Greeks worked an average of 1,811 hours per year[35].}

^{In 2007, the average worker made around 20 dollars per hour, similar to Spain and slightly more than half of average U.S. hourly income."}

Έργα και ημέραι της ΝΔ.

Ένας φίλος μου αμετανόητος ΝΔ μου λέει συνεχώς ότι το ΠΑΣΟΚ είναι το κόμμα που φόρτωσε την Ελλάδα με δάνεια. Παραθέτω εδώ κάτω τα στοιχεία από ένα άρθρο του Μανόλη Δρεττάκη, πρώην αντιπροέδρου της βουλής, υπουργού και καθηγητή πανεπιστημίου (ΑΣΟΕΕ), όπου συγκρίνεται η 9ετία ΠΑΣΟΚ 1995-2004 και η 5ετία ΝΔ 2004-2009.

Για να καταλάβω:

Η ΝΔ πήρε το δημόσιο χρέος το 2004 στα 183 δις (98.6% του ΑΕΠ) και το παρέδωσε το 2009 στα 272 δις (115% του ΑΕΠ - το ποσοστό θα ήταν ακόμα μεγαλύτερο αν δεν είχαν φουσκώσει τεχνητά το ΑΕΠ το 2005 συνυπολογίζοντας σε αυτό άκουσον άκουσον τα εισοδήματα των ιερόδουλων!!) και την ανάπτυξη το 2004 στο 4.7% και την οδήγησε στο 3.7% το 2006 και στο 2.9% στο 2008 και την παρέδωσε τελικά στο 0% το 2009. 3 μήνες πριν τις εκλογές λέγαν ότι το έλλειμμα είναι 3.5%, λίγες μέρες πριν τις εκλογές 6.5% και τελικά αποδείχτηκε ότι ήταν 12.7% (update: και τελικά καταλήξαμε ότι ξεπέρασε το 15%)



ΚΑΙ ΕΧΟΥΝ ΤΟ ΘΡΑΣΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΜΙΛΑΝΕ ΑΚΟΜΑ??!?!?!?


Από τη σύγκριση φαίνεται ότι το ΠΑΣΟΚ δανειζόταν ανάλογα με τις δυνατότητες της οικονομίας, καθώς ο δανεισμός αυξανόταν περίπου όσο αυξανόταν και το ΑΕΠ (διαφορά μικρότερη του 1%) ενώ η ΝΔ δανείζόταν με πολλαπλάσιο ρυθμό!!! (4.2%) Σε απόλυτα νούμερα η ΝΔ σε 5 χρόνια δανείστηκε πλεονασματικά 25 φορές όσα πλεονασματικά δανείστηκε το ΠΑΣΟΚ σε σχεδόν τα διπλάσια χρόνια!!!

Και ξαναρωτάω:

ΕΧΟΥΝ ΤΟ ΘΡΑΣΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΜΙΛΑΝΕ ΑΚΟΜΑ??!?!?!?

The fairytale that Greece lied to join EUROzone and the Greek financial crisis

Enough with the fairytale that Greece shouldn't get into Euro or lied to get into it. Greece entered EUROzone totally legally. The conservative Greek government of 2004-2009 tried to accuse the previous government for that and created that rumour. They made research, they found nothing wrong and eventually they admitted themselves that it was a stupid decision to doubt the previous government and only lead to giving the country a bad reputation.

The problems that Greece has today are also "miracle" of the conservative Greek government of 2004-2009. They received an economy of 4.5% progress and they managed to drop it to 0% before the crisis! They lied about the deficit to EU and the Greek people.

So yes, the Greeks have to pay. But also EU has to pay! Because Balkenende, Merkel, Sarkozy, Berluscony and the rest of the Christian-Democrat gang all knew what the Greek government was doing all these 5.5 years. But they covered the ass of their Conservative buddie (prime minister back then) Karamanlis.

So yes, now they also have to pay. Whether they will take those money from tax (Dutch/German/French) payers or not is their own problem.

Greece doesn't ask for money anyway. What does Greece ask:

If Greece had its own currency it could have de-evaluated it and get out of this crisis. But now Greece has Euro, so it's not possible.

The deficit will fall with the harsh measures and cut-backs that the new (Social-Democrat) government (of G. Papandreou) announced and everyones agrees on that.

But right now Greece can't borrow cheap money. Greece borrows money with almost double the interest of the rest EU countries! No matter how it cuts back on expenses, the high interest of those loans will eventually choke the Greek economy.

So EU has to find a way that Greece gets access to cheap loans. So what Greece is proposing is that the EU is borrowing on behalf of all the EU countries. This way, yes, Germany will borrow a little bit more expensive than what they borrow now, but Greece and the rest economies of the South will borrow money cheapper. That will complete the monetary union (EUROzone), cause now apparently it's incomplete.

According also to the French Minister of Finances, this is not about Greece. This is about an attack of 6 specific financial centres of American and Brittish interests against EURO.

They use now the weakest link, Greece. But soon they will turn to Spain and Portugal and maybe even Italy.

Proof in Jewish books that ancient Macedonians were Greek

I found through another blog this very good video showing Jewish (religion) books (mainly old Testament) refering to Alexander, Macedonians, and Macedonian, simply as Greek, Greeks and Kingdom of Greece.

Very interesting, watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FNz-lcMjXw

International students stories...

A (Greek) friend of mine was the assistant in a lab this quarter. The students had to hand in the reports at the end of the quarter by e-mail.

In the text that accompanies the report in the e-mail, you can see the difference between a Greek student and a Dutch student.

Dutch student:
"Dear assistant,

in this e-mail we attached the report of the lab ....

Thank you.

Best Regards,
...."


Greek student:
"Τσίμπα πούστη."
translation: pinch that (=take that) faggot.

Οι γυναίκες του Γιώργου

Μ' αρέσει η νέα κυβέρνηση. Και φαίνεται να αρέσει και στο 75% των επισκεπτών του in.gr

Μ' αρέσει που έχει τόσες γυναίκες η νέα κυβέρνηση.

Μ' αρέσει η alternative υπουργός Περιβάλλοντος.

Μ' αρέσει που έχουμε υπουργό Περιβάλλοντος.

Μ' αρέσει που η νέα υπουργός Γεωργίας με το καλημέρα σας (τελετή παράδοσης) ανακοίνωσε στους υπαλλήλους του υπουργείου ότι όποιος δε δουλεύει θα παίρνει πόδι.

Μ' αρέσει που προτάθηκε θέση στην κυβέρνηση σε μέλος των Οικολόγων Πράσινων (κι ας μην την άφησε το κόμμα της να συμμετέχει).

Μ' αρέσει που το πρώτο υπουργικό συμβούλιο έγινε για πρώτη φορά στην ιστορία με ανοιχτές πόρτες.

Μ' αρέσει που καλέσανε τον συνήγορο του πολίτη να τους πει τι στη δομή των υπουργείων προκαλεί προβλήματα στον πολίτη και καθόντουσαν εκεί επί μισή ώρα και τον άκουγαν να τους τα ψέλνει.

Μ' αρέσει που τα νέα στελέχη των υπουργείων θα βγουν με προκήρυξη και δε θα βάλει ο κάθε υπουργός τα τσιράκια του (και το ίδιο άκουσα ότι θα γίνει και με τους διευθυντές των ΔΕΚΟ).

Μ' αρέσει που κόπηκαν τα έξοδα μετακινήσεων των υπουργών και οι τζιπάρες και οι λιμουζίνες έγιναν toyota.

Μ' αρέσει που οι περισσότεροι υπουργοί επέλεξαν υβριδικά αυτοκίνητα για να πάνε στη δουλειά τους.

Μ' αρέσει που επιτέλους αλλάζει κάτι σε αυτόν τον τόπο!

Εκλογές 2009

Ό,τι έλεγα το 2007 ισχύει και σήμερα, αυτούσιο:

http://melenegiorgo.blogspot.com/2007/09/2007.html

Το ερώτημα είναι:

Θα κάνουμε το ίδιο λάθος; Θα επαναλάβουμε το σφάλμα;


Επιτέλους ας δώσουμε μια ευκαιρία στο ΠΑΣΟΚ του Γιώργου Παπανδρέου!